On 2009-04-08, Callan wrote:
I'm not just saying it's non causative, I've said it can't be refered to either. I've given the example before that if someone states a six is showing on an imagined die, that doesn't mean there's a one showing on the bottom of the imagined die.
The same goes for determining higher ground. That someone described jumping onto the table means they have higher ground about as much as that a one is showing on the bottom of the imagined die. It's a logical conclusion (particularly the dice one, in my mind), but at the same time a false one. The previously spoken fiction isn't something that can be refered to.