thread: 2009-05-04 : Dice and Cloud, the Death Threats thread

On 2009-05-04, Christian Griffen wrote:

Hey Vincent,

First, that was a good conversation.  Have you actually ever read Beast Hunters?  You will find that it promotes that very attitude while alleviating the burden of the judgments at the same time.

Second, though, I wonder if Dogs really fits this mold. Maybe you can clarify that for me. You don't want limited resources to make the determination ("20 tokens for advantage per game, spend token then.justify in fiction") but Dogs does exactly that. You roll dice and get limited resources, then justify their expenditure in the fiction. I don't see how "I use my two 10s to shootfrom the high ground" is any different.

I played Dogs with a character and fiction first player once, who got very frustrated that the mechanics rather than the fiction determined her range of actions. That is, when the dice get to "escalate or give" imposes on the fiction in a way that is leftward pointing.  Almost all conflict actions are in Dogs. Personally, I like it in the game, but I can't see how you could say that it is an example of a rightward pointing game.

Am I not getting something here?



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