thread: 2009-07-13 : How About Some Q and A
On 2009-07-14, Adam Dray wrote:
Yeah, I am pretty sure I understand Vincent's take on IIEE with regards to Iana.
Moreover, if a player says, "Iana climbs the tower," then only the System in use determines if it's intent, initiation, execution, or effect. And because System sits inside Social Contract, that implies that at any time, the players can agree to change their System and "just" go with consent-based decision-making for that instance. In other words, stuff never gets into the SIS without the entire group agreeing that it does. Never.
None of that is controversial, I am pretty sure.
What *I* am confused about is Vincent saying that IIEE only applies to what the character wants to do. That is, Intent = "Iana wants to climb that tower!" I claim that any kind of addition to the SIS goes through the same IIEE steps and that the Character thing is a red herring (even the Initiation one, which might be somewhat troublesome).
Player: "There's a tower on the hill."
Is that intent? ("I want there to be a tower on the hill.")
Is that initiation? ("Okay, guys, I'm gonna try to put a tower on the hill.")
Is that execution? ("I rolled 1 2 2 5 6 6. That's two sixes, so I get to put a tower on the hill.")
Is that effect? ("All right. So we all agree that there's this tower on the hill.")
I don't understand why IIEE doesn't cover this. In fact, I believe that it does, especially after reading some Forge stuff. I'm trying to understand where Vincent is coming from and figure out what I'm not grokking.
