thread: 2009-07-26 : Very Briefly about Authority
On 2009-07-27, Callan wrote:
Hello Vincent,
"They aren't playing the same game anymore, but they're still roleplaying."
I'm kind of thinking you have two bubbles, one is 'roleplay', the other bubble is inside the first and it is the particular game in question. Maybe D&D or whatever. I'm thinking that because you say they can discard one game/not be playing the same game anymore, yet they are still roleplaying/you say they are still within the larger bubble that is roleplay. Even though they discarded the smaller bubble inside it, for another bubble.
I am not trying to challenge what your saying at all, in describing this. I'm just trying to describe the structure of what your saying in more detail. Does it seem to describe what your saying?
Now onto actually challenging the idea (which is not challenging the two bubbles from above) - how exactly are you using the word 'trumps'? Because as I've known it to be used, it means a certain thing (usually a card), via prior agreed authority, trumps another thing. The word 'trumps' relies on prior agreed authority holding up, in itself. Moment to moment assent, because of prior agreed authority, trumps prior agreed authority?
There's also the old comedy routine, where the badguys are playing cards - one says he has a full house, the other says he has a smith and wesson. The others 'assent' and give him all the money. Did moment to moment assent trump prior agreement, or did they just fear for their lives and humour the idea he won?
It seems easy enough to counter your position that moment to moment assent trumps prior agreement - I don't agree it does.
"But you have to agree it does!"
Why? Is there some law of physics involved? As much as I have to agree I can't flap my arms and fly to the moon?
Or is there some prior agreement I'm breaking in not agreeing moment to moment assent trumps prior agreement? If that's the case it's prior agreement coming before my moment to moment assent.
Laws of physics or some prior agreement are the only two things that would compel me to agree moment to moment assent trumps prior agreement. Is there a third factor I don't know of, that aught to compel me to agree? I'm genuinely asking and trying to think of one, but can't see one.
Really I think your working from a larger 'roleplay' bubble and essentially a prior agreed rule of that bubble is that anything that goes on in a smaller bubble inside it(a particular game, like D&D or WOD) is subject to moment to moment assent, regardless of the smaller bubbles prior agreements. I hope I sound constructive in saying that, because I think it's fairly constructive to say.
