thread: 2012-12-20 : Positioning: Retroactive

On 2012-12-21, Dan Maruschak wrote:

So other than the obvious difference that the possibly-out-of-bounds tennis players are starting from a point of visual perception and the gun-in-a-federal-building RPG players are starting from a point of "looking" at their imaginations, I'm not really following what two different categories you're putting these scenarios in. It's related to uncertainty? Both sets of players justifiably believe incompatible things that must be reconciled before play can continue, no? Comparing to the golf hypothetical, The I-still-have-my-gun guy presumably believes that a fictional situation that would take away an element of his character effectiveness wouldn't happen "without his noticing", and I'm-allowed-to-slightly-move-the-golf-ball guy presumably believes that physics and plantlife aren't allowed to conspire to prevent him from taking a normal golf swing for his next shot. What different categories are these in? Similarly, why is whether or not a foul happened in Threlicus's basketball game an "interpersonal" thing rather than a question of physical fact about whether that type of contact was illegal? How about strikes and balls in baseball? (Sorry if these queries are veering too far into disagreement territory).


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