thread: 2005-11-22 : A Seriously Social Issue
On 2005-11-29, Ron Edwards wrote:
Matthijs, I have to break your post into two parts: the second paragraph and the third.
#2: I gave my example in the previous post, somewhat abstracted.
#3: Anyone who thinks "I suffered, so it must be great Art" is a moron. No one claimed anything of the sort.
My claim is that sometimes I am in the zone of producing, helping to produce, really great art as I see it. And in some cases (NOT by definition, just in some cases), to do it, to get there, I must violate social and ethical boundaries among us at that very moment. By "must," I don't mean some kind of stupid price I have to pay, as for admission. I mean that the material I want to use in the art is, by most social standards, not available, even though it would be perfect.
So I break the standards, when that happens. I play long-term with people who are either willing to do this too, or who have learned to live with it.
This makes MH go "Thanks for clarifying your point."
