thread: 2006-04-10 : A problem for feminists/pro-feminists
On 2006-04-10, Vincent wrote:
Here's sum-uppage for those of you thrashing around in marginalia above.
In the years-long multiforum conversation we're having, yes, it's inescapable that some people are going to feel excluded. They're people who like roleplaying the way it is and wish we'd knock it off. In fact they're not going to just feel excluded: because their interests are at odds with the conversation's, the conversation genuinely doesn't include them.
Some of them are women.
My question was, should I treat women who're excluded from the conversation and resent it differently from how I treat men who're excluded from the conversation and resent it? I see both sides and I want someone to tell me which.
Ben's answer said to me: Here in the real world, you don't get for someone to come along and tell you which. You have to decide for yourself and live with it. Probably you have to decide for yourself anew every time it comes up.
I've gotten what I needed out of this post.
If you haven't gotten what you need out of it, that's fine. Please say so. But you do need to say so in some way other than snarking and nitpicking in marginalia. LPL, RGD, this means you.
This makes JW go "Pshaw"
I find the assertion that the only possible root cause of exclusion is bovine satisfaction with roleplaying as it currently stands to be mistaken, at best.
This makes TB go "I missed Ben's point then"
Because if what he said was "it's all on a case by case basis, every time it comes up" then I'm okay with it.